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I’m not sure what I’ll do retire or carry
on. I’ll probably carry on.
M: What inspires you?
N: Someone asked me that the other
day, well I know I’m a workaholic. I
really should cut down now. I'm 70 but
I am passionate about my work. I
suppose what inspires me, people
make all sorts of comments about
perpetrator programmes and how bad
they are, or how good they are or how
they shouldn’t be allowed and all the
stuff I’ve heard for years and years.
Some men do change, some women do
change – that’s a given.
I suppose also, I like new things, I like
change and over the years I have
developed my work, developed my
training and that inspires me. People
on training usually teach me stuff as
well, which is fantastic.
M: If you had a magic wand, how
would you use it?
N: I would like to eradicate violence
against women, children and men – if
that was my magic wand. A lot of men
and women say to me it would be
lovely if we could just wave a wand and
it will all be better.
"Some men do change, some women do change – that’s a
given. Not as many as I would like to but some do change."
Not as many as I would like to but
some do change so what inspires me
the most is that if we can, as human
beings, can make women, men and
children who are surviving domestic
abuse safer – because I don’t think we
can ever make anyone 100% safe, but
if we can make them safer, that is what
inspires me. I speak to clients who I
worked with years ago, in fact one
woman I worked with at a woman’s
centre in 1998 calls me every summer
to tell me how she’s doing. We try and
do a follow up every 6 months to see if
the people we have on the programme
stop using violence, some do, some
don’t. If a person using intimate
partner violence can change and make
it, particularly for the children we
forget about the children quite often,
that keeps me going.
M: Do you think that, as a society, we
could ever eradicate it or do you think
that we can only ever manage it?
N: Oh my goodness, I think on some
days, how would you ever eradicate it?
We need to have so much more
education – education in the police,
the Crown Prosecution Services, the
judges, the magistrates, educating
people about domestic abuse, the
general public who would rather walk
away – understandably if you see
people in the street being hurt.
Eradicate? I would be hopeful, in my
lifetime but if we manage it a lot better
we could make a huge difference.
Prison sentences are far too low, if you
even get to Court there are still to
many NFAs. it’s a really tough
question. I would love to eradicate it
but realistically, I think we would have
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